Tuesday, June 3, 2008

June 9, 2008 - Overcoming Individual Denial to 9/11 Truth Show with Carol Wolman, Ken Jenkins, Chuck Millar and Ralph Metzner

(Part I of a Two Part Series on Denial, Part II will be on Overcoming Collective Denial)

Listen 8:00- 9:00 pm (PST) to the WeThePeopleRadioNetwork.com and to our guests- Carol Wolman, MD and Ken Jenkins

Listen 9:00- 10:00 pm (PST) to the WeThePeopleRadioNetwork.com and to our guests- Chuck Millar and Ralph Metzner

Carol Wolman, MD is a psychiatrist in Northern California. She wrote Why the Resistance to 9/11 Truth?. A lifelong peace activist, she has written extensively on the psychology of our times. She was a founder of Bay Area Impeach Bush-Cheney. She ran for Congress in '06, and is now a Green candidate for Congress in CA District 1. She is a coordinator of The New Broom Coalition, for a clean sweep of Congress. She has practiced psychiatry for many years, and penned many excellent articles including- Is the President Nuts?.

Pioneering 9/11 activist and video producer Ken Jenkins has a degree in electrical engineering from Carnegie-Mellon University, and has done extensive postgraduate study in psychology. He has worked as a video professional for over 30 years, including 7 years at Hewlett-Packard in their state-of-the-art broadcast video facility HPTV.

Ken awoke to 9/11 truth by November of 2001 and started presenting his PowerPoint and video productions on 9/11 truth in early 2002. He has since spoken at four international 9/11 conferences on the Psychological Aspects of 9/11 and participated in numerous other 9/11 events and radio programs. His first video release,“Perspective on 9/11” was originally made for the early live presentations. He has since produced dozens of 9/11 DVDs, including eight with leading 9/11 Truth author David Ray Griffin, including his best-“9/11 – The Myth and the Reality” and his latest- 9/11 and Nationalist Faith: How Faith Can Be Illuminating or Blinding.

He is also a partner in 911tv.org, which has documented speakers from many 9/11 conferences and events. The resulting DVDs, as well as those produced by others, are distributed in part through cable access channels nationwide. Ken also designed the popular 11 Remarkable Facts About 9/11 card. By revealing the “false flag” nature of the 9/11 attacks, it is Ken’s intention to not only help end the current bogus “war on terror” but to also help open the way to ending war as a political option on this planet.

Chuck Millar received his Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology from the California Institute of Integral Studies and has been in private practice as a Marriage and Family Therapist since 1987. He has been a 9/11 Truth activist since 2003, attending numerous demonstrations and engaging in conversations with people in denial about what happened on 9/11. Chuck is also a free-lance technical editor and has edited many press releases and promotional documents for the Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance (and has helped mediate conflicts which have arisen within the group).

At the last moment, the format of the show was changed. Ralph Metzner who was scheduled to be on June 16th won't be available on the 16th, so we tried to include him in the last half hour- instead of a larger discussion. Due to technical difficulties, he was only with us for the last fifteen minutes.

Ralph Metzner, Ph.D. who has a B.A. in philosophy and psychology from Oxford University and a Ph.D. in clinical psychology from Harvard University, has been involved in the study of transformations of consciousness ever since, as a graduate student, he worked with Timothy Leary and Richard Alpert (later Ram Dass) on the Harvard Psilocybin Projects. He co-wrote The Psychedelic Experience, and was editor of The Psychedelic Review. During the 1970s, Ralph spent 10 years in the intensive study and practice of Agni Yoga, a meditative system of working with light-fire life-energies. He wrote Maps of Consciousness, one of the earliest attempts at a comparative cartography of consciousness; and Know Your Type, a comparative survey of personality typologies, ancient and modern. He was the Academic Dean for ten years, during the 1980s, at the California Institute of Integral Studies, where he taught courses there on “Altered States of Consciousness” and “Developing Ecological Consciousness.” He is now Professor Emeritus. He maintains a part-time psychotherapy practice, and conducts numerous workshops on consciousness transformation, both nationally and internationally. His books include The Well of Remembrance, The Unfolding Self, Green Psychology, two edited collections on the science and the phenomenology of Ayahuasca and Teonan├ícatl and The Expansion of Consciousness. He is the founder of the Green Earth Foundation.

(June 16th- Part II will be on Overcoming Collective Denial to 9/11 Truth with sociologist Peter Phillips, director of Project Censored,
film maker and author Neil Slade.)


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snug.bug said...

Dr. Wolman: "Reality is a thin
line between denial and paranoia."

"At this point people are willing
to believe that the Bush
administration could perpetrate
something like 9/11.... The
Katrina business showed the
blackness of their hearts."

56 House Reps wrote the Attorney
General asking for investigation
of Bush for condoning torture.

Plame outing probably meant that
some agents in her network were
killed; her front company was outed.

Jenkins: Talk to people to
understand their fear.

We need to push and listen, and
push and listen, and know when to
back off.

9/11 was a trauma; people are
infantilized and authorities
stepped in as father figures to
explain what's what.

If you could go on national TV and
convince everybody that 9/11 was an
inside job, the resulting chaos
would be damaging. Gradual
awakening is the desired model.
Most of us went through a long-term
process, similar to the stages of
grief, to reach truth.

If a lie is audacious enough,
people will assume it's true
because it's not natural for us to
think in such big terms.

Part of us wants revenge, and
though forgiveness is a challenge,
that's where we need to go.

Dr. Millar

There are two kinds of denial--the
denial of facts (mortality, addiction,
abuse) and the denial of emotions,
defending you from your feelings.

"Terror Management Theory" (TMT):
An event like 9/11 breaks through
our primal death fear, and people
seek to consolidate their belief
system and try to define an "evil
other" enemy and a "good us" of
friends and strong parent figure.

Raising questions shakes their
beliefs, arousing anger.

TMT says people's emotional
investment in their groupthink
is more productively approached
in respectful dialog and friendly
persuasion than in combative
modes. Approach from their point
of view, on the basis of their own
questions, even leftgatekeepers.

At some point you find they don't
want to hear it any more, and you
have to give them a break. It
takes time and repetition for the
information to sink in.

"Overcoming denial" is an arrogant

In these times we're dealing with
shadow material and a lot of fear.
We should not make enemies but
communicate our knowledge
empathically--even to Cheney and
Bush. We're all here on the
planet at the same time and in some
way doing the best we can.

Dr. Metzner

It's a huge step from Muslim
terrorists to government action.
The average citizen won't believe
it, such a deep moral shock to the

Note similarity of this material to
counsel offered by the Bouchards